NATIONAL TOUR
National Organization for Marriage plans rally in Augusta
July 14th in Capitol Park
By Susan M. Cover scover@mainetoday.com
MaineToday Media State House Writer
AUGUSTA -- Supporters of traditional marriage will gather in Capitol Park on July 14 for a rally that will kick-off a 19-city nationwide Summer for Marriage Tour.
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• For more about the Summer for Marriage Tour, go to www.protectmarriagesite.com/summer2010.html.
• For more about EqualityMaine, go to www.equalitymaine.org
Bob Emrich, one of two men who led the successful repeal of Maine's gay-marriage law in November, is the local organizer. He's working with the National Organization for Marriage on the Maine rally.
"I keep hearing all the time about how marriage is going to come up again (in the Legislature)," he said. "I thought it would be a good idea to remind people."
In May of 2009, Gov. John Baldacci signed a bill into law to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry in Maine after lawmakers in both the House and Senate gave it final approval. The following day, Emrich and the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland launched a signature drive to put the issue before voters in November.
Voters rejected the new law by a 53-47 percent margin.
But supporters of same-sex marriage said they would continue to work on the issue, promising to bring it back in the near future. Betsy Smith, executive director of EqualityMaine, said they are reaching out to voters.
"We're doing what we've always done," she said. "Talking one-on-one with Mainers about why they should support fairness and equality."
Smith said she doesn't think it's right that the National Organization for Marriage, which contributed nearly $2 million to the repeal effort, is planning to come back to Maine. The group has filed suit in state and federal court to object to Maine's campaign finance laws that require disclosure of donor names.
"Here NOM is, a national organization out of New Jersey, coming to Maine once again to tell Mainers they should not support fairness and equality for their gay and lesbian neighbors," she said.
Emrich said NOM's Executive Director Brian Brown asked if Maine could be part of the tour. A group called "Protect Marriage: One Man, One Woman" helps raise money for NOM and included a message about the tour on its Web site.
"For too long have we been members of a silent majority, watching the news in disdain as one state after another legalizes gay marriage," wrote Louis J. Marinelli, director of operations. "For too long have we considered our mere membership in a Facebook group or our signature on an online petition to be sufficient to counter the liberal-progressive attack on our traditions and values."
After leaving Maine, the tour is scheduled to travel to Concord, N.H.; Albany, N.Y.; Providence, R.I.; Trenton, N.J.; and several other stops as far west as St. Louis. It is scheduled to end August 15 in Washington, D.C.
Emrich said a court case pending in California will likely mean same-sex marriage will soon become a federal issue. Regardless, he wants to make sure Mainers are aware of what's going on. He also wants gay marriage to become an issue in the fall governor's race.
"I think it needs to be an issue in the campaign," he said. "It needs to be an issue in the culture."
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60 COMMENTS
dG90YWxzbGFt said...
Everyone has the same God given right to marry the opposite sex. It is perverse to attempt “same sex” in place of real love. Some people have a little brain damage and then tend to choose their own sex for some reason. Its just plain Wrong!
June 28, 2010 at 3:28 AM Report abuse
Jazz11 said...
Hatred never takes a break. The previous statement describing Gay men and women as perverse goes to show the depth and breath that is always seething just below the surface.... even when they win the vote they still continue to hate. They always use God as an excuse for their discrimination.
June 28, 2010 at 4:31 AM Report abuse
UofA said...
Jazz11- I do not hate you or use God for the way I voted against your wishes. I have my beliefs about what comprises a marriage and has for centuries and voted to keep it the same way. I do not discriminate against gays, just ignore them. I do not care how they have sex or with who. It is not any of my business. So stop calling all of us haters, bigots or any other names because your side loss again. Probably will lose again next year also!
June 28, 2010 at 4:58 AM Report abuse
Sam said...
Will demonstrators be wearing hoods to hide under because, like the contributors to NOM fighting ques 1, they are too ashamed to let people know they support hate and bigotry?
June 28, 2010 at 5:50 AM Report abuse
Sam said...
Just 5 years ago a vote on gay marriage would have been overwhelmingly against it. Polls indicated fewer than 25% of Maine voters supported the concept at that time. In 2009 over 47% of Maine voters supported gay marriage. 90% of University of Maine students voted in favor of gay marriage (voted no on repeal). The trends here and throughout the country are clear and that undeniable fact frightens some folks. Those who oppose marriage equality are increasingly just talking to themselves. Time will erode opposition to full equal rights as the older generation passes the torch on to the young folks who, like U. Maine students, are overwhelmingly in favor of gay marriage. Change causes fear in those who are the least certain and secure. I hope they can grow and learn tolerance, but whether they do or not the change is coming and the statistics predicting it are crystal clear.
June 28, 2010 at 6:08 AM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
Hallowell-area B&Bs are still accepting reservations for those who wish to stay in the area for the Old Hallowell Days kick-off on the 16th. One Man and One Woman will lead the Saturday morning parade appearing as Adam and Eve. Auditions will be held at the bandstand along the riverfront on Friday beginning at 1:00 P.M., before the mosquitoes come out. As always, candidates for a variety of local and statewide offices are expected to participate in the parade, tossing sweets to the crowds. A mystery candidate will make his or her debut as the race for the area senate seat begins. In the interest of full transparency, we hope that all candidates will participate in the Adam and Eve competition - black tie optional but a healthy tan preferred. Saturday morning's race will be run, rain or shine. Bob Emrich wants gay marriage to become an issue in the race. He will represent NOM and Hallowellians are looking forward to the fireworks.
June 28, 2010 at 7:11 AM Report abuse
punk51 said...
and we are lucky a bolt of lightening will strike them all as it did the 6 story tall jesus statue in the mid-west and burn
June 28, 2010 at 7:26 AM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
Anticipating just such an eventuality, Pastor Emrich will bring both his lightning rod and his staff. Attendees are asked to bring Leyden jars. A tinfoil concession will be available on the grounds. Participating applicants for the regional marijuana dispensaries promise to keep everyone there high as a kite. Representatives from Paint Maine Red will appear as Ben Franklin.
June 28, 2010 at 7:42 AM Report abuse
1wouldthink said...
Mainers, as is the whole country, have made their point loud and clear. Marrige is an unacceptable term in describing what the SSM want people to accept by default, Sorry folks, the word marriage is already taken and it remains as being between 1 man and 1 woman. Get over it already.
June 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM Report abuse
Greg said...
What gives anyone the right to say what true love is. Once a bigot, always a bigot. Get over YOURSELVES.
June 28, 2010 at 8:08 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
This discussion is getting tiring. Emrich and his crowd are a dying breed. I recall he's from out-of-state, as well. This issue is a simple legal matter that unfortunately will be resolved by the Supreme Court, as it has in many other countries of the world. For the umpteenth time, a secular, legal, state-recognized marriage has nothing to do with a church ceremony. If the churches with to marry, or not, same-sex couples, they may. It's up to them. Some do, some do not. Really, unless you belong to that particular church, who could possibly care? On the other hand, secular marriage recognized by the State for the purposes of legal matters (custody, inheritance, insurances, taxes, etc.) being discriminated based on gender is as archaic as bans on inter-racial marriages before 1965.
June 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
(Ran out of space) - continued: I am sure there are churches out there would won't marry inter-racial couples, but that same couple can be married by a Justice of the Peace. So, are they "married?" Well, yes, in the eyes of the State they are. In the eyes of their church, no. I am unsure why people cannot see this clear division between church and state.
June 28, 2010 at 8:53 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
I've said this 1000 times in previous debates, in England (as in other countries) a couple goes to their town hall, takes out a license, signs it and are legally married. Then, if they so choose, they go to their church and request the church bless their union. At that point, a regular wedding is held. It could be days, weeks, months after the actual legal marriage. Although it's not recognized in the US by some, it IS the signed contract with the state that makes the marriage legal. You can get married in 25 different churches by 25 different types of ministers. However, until you sign the state contract and return it, you are NOT married. Only those who want to be married in a church, need to be. As a state contract it is illegal to not allow same sex couples to marry.
June 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
I believe the California Prop 8 case will be the answer to expanding the definition of marriage to include any two, non-blood-related adults who are not already married to someone else. Judge Walker in the California trial has asked very detailed questions of both sides, crafted to showcase the weakness or strength of each side's argument, when the case goes on to the 9th Circuit Appealet Court (the most liberal court in the country) That decision, of course, will be appealed to the Supreme Court. The same Supreme Court that last week ruled the names of people who signed petitions against same sex marriage (in Washington State)MUST be revealed. (That decision sunk NOM's case in ME) Conservative Justice Scalia sided with the majority as he did in Lawrence v Texas. In sum, it's looking pretty good for same sex marriage. NOM can have their rally. But soon they will have to move on to sticking their noses in some other part of people's lives because the Supreme Court will have spoken.
June 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
Hester-what you stated is quite clear. I have attended weddings in Europe and even eastern Europe (implying more conservative) and the deal is the same. A couple goes to the State to get the legal marriage contract processed and optionally, later on, to a church for a marriage ceremony. Unfortunately, we use the same word, "marriage," in the USA to cover both secular and religious meanings which causes confusion. I doubt most people know the difference. As far as the USA goes, it has long been established in our courts that a state marriage license is a contract. Note that a divorce is recognized by the State and is the dissolution of a contract. The church may or may not recognize a divorce. Further evidence the two issues are separate. Gender discrimination on a regular secular contract never would be allowed. This is the part needing to be changed. The church may at their discretion remain in the 12th century. Who really cares what they think? They have no dog in this fight.
June 28, 2010 at 9:41 AM Report abuse
dG90YWxzbGFt said...
A State marriage is just for small and selfish minds and for the purpose of collecting taxes and is nothing compared to a Marriage in God’s eyes. It’s too bad the so-called “Secular” is just a word for narcissism and you’ll never have the fullness you seek that you would have in a real marriage.
June 28, 2010 at 9:48 AM Report abuse
DaveD said...
homosexuality is a cover for perversion. a very low percentage of those claiming to be gay, actually are. it's an excuse, a mask to hide behind to justify their trips to montreal and amsterdam where they prey upon underage boys.
June 28, 2010 at 9:48 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
Hester - I just had dinner last night with a Boston attorney who has been working on this issue. Originally from CA, I asked her if she thought Prop-8 would end up in the 9th Circuit (liberal) as it appears we will prevail in the current case. I posed the question asking if the opposition would just "cut their losses" and give up CA and not push this to the 9th, which then would imply the Supreme Court. I pointed out the opposition could lose the whole enchilada. Her reaction: She think the opposition isn't that sharp and will take this to the bitter end and won't stop until the Supremes finally tell them to "go away." Well, I can only hope so. I thought by 2010 these civil rights problems would be long-gone. I guess intolerance takes no vacation.
June 28, 2010 at 9:52 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
dG90YWxzbGFt - I respect your choice of religion. However, I am not particularly religious. I do question your whole "God's eyes" statement. Apparently, YOUR church does not recognize same-sex marriages, but I know of many that do, so apparently they must have some other God to whom they worship? For me, it does not matter as all I am concerned about is the secular marriage. I just wanted to point out that various churches have various opinions on this and many other topics such as abortion, birth control, SS marriage, inter-racial marriage and on and on. BUT, that is up to the churches and has -zero- to do with the State. We have 'Freedom of Religion' so you and many others can practice your flavor as you see fit. But, the churches need to leave the rest of us alone. No one is parading around expecting your church to perform SS marriages. SS marriage will have NO effect on you or your church. This is a State matter.
June 28, 2010 at 10:00 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
DaveD - Oddly enough, this seems to be the purview of Ted Haggart and George Rekers, the born-again Christian leaders. Your comments about who is gay and not are just so out of touch with reality. If every straight person turned purple for one day, you'd find an awful lot who did not and a number with some pretty light shades of plum. My advice: Stick to the comfort of your church. This whole matter has no effect on you.
June 28, 2010 at 10:06 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
Chuck A) thank you for the clear example of what happens with marriage in other countries. B) Thank you again for relating what your Boston lawyer thinks. I don't have any legal training. But to me, the arugments the right is putting up in court seem so small & easily shot down. I thought it was just because I didn't understand the fullness of what they were saying. When I first read the Iowa decision, I couldn't believe the weakness and triteness of the conservative argument. Each and every one easily shot down by the court. Then when they dragged out those same tired arguments in Canifornia, I was outright flabbergasted. There isn't a word of truth to any of their arguments. Nothing that can be scientifically supported. All of it easily refuted. I don't understand why. Without question they have the financial resources to hire the best. Can their 'best' really be that bad? Why didn't they add arguments that weren't included in Iowa? Or at least expand the support for their thesis?
June 28, 2010 at 10:07 AM Report abuse
1wouldthink said...
This WAS a State matter that WAS voted on. Results: Repeal of a forced acceptance of what the majority sees as unacceptable for what-ever the reasons. Cry in your own cup,the masses have spoken.
June 28, 2010 at 10:18 AM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
1wouldthink said... This WAS a State matter that WAS voted on. Results: Repeal of a forced acceptance of what the majority sees as unacceptable. Cry in your own cup,the masses have spoken. _________________________________ The masses were lied to. A savvy, experienced communications expert knew exactly which fears to exploit. When the masses fall behind in their evolution, education or understanding of an issue, it's the court's job to step in and take action to bring practice into alignment with knowledge. Like with women's right to vote, like with abortion, like with segregation. Courts do not take the first amendment lightly...or the phrase...'equal treatment under the law'. When Lawrence v Texas shot down sodomy laws, the path for same sex marriage was set. This is simply a logical extension of that decision. If sodomy isn't illegal and gay adoption isn't illegal, what's left to prevent SS couples from marrying? There isn't a legal leg to stand on.
June 28, 2010 at 10:32 AM Report abuse
DaveD said...
chuck- you lost. why don't you move to a state that supports your perversion? why aren't you and your boyfriend rushing off to a country that supports your wishes? the voters spoke - it has nothing to do with anyones 'church'.... for that matter chuck - why don't you honeymoon in Iran, Iraq, Saudi or Pakistan - they are a bit more harsh than here.
June 28, 2010 at 10:42 AM Report abuse
LMPer said...
As the debate on this issue continues-although equality should never be decided by debate or vote-I did learn one thing from the SSM vote. As a straight, middle-age, Maine-native woman, I refuse to sit silently in the future. Silence may lead some to misunderstand my position-Equality means equality for ALL. How about a large turn-out of SSM supporters at the 7/14 NOM rally? No confrontation, no angry words-just taking a stand for what is right.
June 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
LMPer: Right. Silence is a problem, although I give great credit to the Maine public for coming out in the number they did. Obviously, the zealots were there in more numbers. I think the results would have been different had it been a major election vote. Still, at 48/52 and only 30,000 votes, the future is quite clear. SSM will occur. It is unfortunate Maine could not have led the way and now loses out on tourism and progressive business dollars. "Next time," as they say.
June 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM Report abuse
Chuck said...
DavidD: Actually, I did work in Iran during the days of the Shah. I evacuated out of there in February 1979 during the Revolution. I lived with my boyfriend, a helicopter mechanic from CA. Great place before the religious nutbars took over - sort of what is trying to happen her in the USA. It is clear that if your objection is not on religious grounds it must then be on intolerance toward others. The problem you will have is that we are here, we have always been here, and we will continue to be here, long after you and I are gone. So, either get used to it, or live your life fretting about something that has no impact on you whatsoever.
June 28, 2010 at 12:02 PM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
continued... 7. You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours. 8. You feel insulted when scientists say people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim we were created from dirt. 9. You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs will spend Eternity in Hell suffering. Yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.” 10. While modern science, history, geology, biology, physics fail to convince you the Bible may be less than reliable, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” is all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity. 11. You actually know a lot less than atheists do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian
June 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM Report abuse
Jack%27sDaddy said...
HesterPrynne said... I have worked for the state for a good many years. I hope someday to run into one of the 'high paid, low productivity' state employees you folks rave about. When that happens, I'll ask him to quit because he's giving the rest of us, hard working, honest employees a bad name.... June 27, 2010 at 2:18 PM Hester's track record today: First comment - June 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM Second comment - June 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM Third commnet - June 28, 2010 at 10:07 AM Forth comment - June 28, 2010 at 10:32 AM You get a break EVERY half hour??!!
June 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
You might be a Fundy if… 1. You see nothing wrong with stating “facts” about what God thinks as if you are His personal secretary. 2. You complain about Christians not being allowed to practice their religion in foreign countries, yet when someone tries to set up a new age bookshop in your town you think it shouldn’t be allowed. 3. Your typical prayer uses the phrase “Lord Jesus” or “Lord God” more times than the Bible. 4. You think people who enjoy the Harry Potter novels are going to be in hell. 5. You think that being tortured in hell for all of eternity for any reason is an appropriate punishment. 6. You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God
June 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
June 28, 2010 at 10:32 AM You get a break EVERY half hour??!!___________________________________ No, but I do get vacation days!
June 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM Report abuse
Chuck said...
Hester: I am no attorney either, but you are correct, the arguments against SSM are flimsy at best when viewed from the secular side. I trust the judge and attorneys in the CA case. You will note the arguments against SSM and the comments in this column tend to all emotional and none factual or logical. The religious people have their bone to pick despite disagreements among the various churches. The others who object just have some visceral reaction - again, emotional and not logical. The straights I have run into in my life who are confident in their sexuality, to a person, could not care less about SSM. As it has no effect on them or society why should they care? And, if you look at the States and other countries where SSM is legal, utterly nothing negative has happened. If fact, to the contrary, this now recognized "domestication" has made the children of SS couples on equal footing with other kids in school. It is a win-win all around.
June 28, 2010 at 12:11 PM Report abuse
hallowellboy said...
I just spoke to God. He said NOM sucks.
June 28, 2010 at 12:14 PM Report abuse
Jack%27sDaddy said...
D@mned good thing! I was getting ready to call your boss!!
June 28, 2010 at 12:14 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
Jack%27sDaddy said... "D@mned good thing! I was getting ready to call your boss!!" . . . . . . I have instructed my secretary to refer all such calls to intake at Riverview.
June 28, 2010 at 12:39 PM Report abuse
VacatME said...
Chuck, I appreciate your patient, non-confrontational responses here. Which is more than I can say for Dave and the others ... As Jazz said - Hatred never takes a break. So sad for those folks! Equality will prevail!
June 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM Report abuse
ProConserv said...
Look at all of the hate and bigotry against normal Christian folk who cherish the holiness of matrimony! You "others" should be ashamed of yourselves!
June 28, 2010 at 1:22 PM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
ProConserv said... Look at all of the hate and bigotry against normal Christian folk who cherish the holiness of matrimony _____________________________how on earth would YOU know anything about normal?
June 28, 2010 at 1:52 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
ProConserv said... "Look at all of the hate and bigotry against normal Christian folk..." . . . . . . . Where? Where? Behind the bushes? In the eaves? I don't see it. Maybe you can point it out with your pinky - that BIG, fat finger that keeps hitting CapsLock. Better yet, don't.
June 28, 2010 at 1:52 PM Report abuse
Chuck said...
ProConserv: The 'hatred and bigotry against Christian folks' as you call it, if this exists, relates to the imposition of your religious views upon others. You see, your interpretation of 'marriage' is intertwined with the legal definition. In real life, the two concepts are separate. For example, if a straight couple goes to City Hall, gets a marriage license, and then gets married by a Justice of the Peace, in the eyes of the law, they are married. Period. Ask a Priest if this same couple is married and he will tell you they are not. Well, if the couple is not Catholic, why would the couple or the State care about the view of the church? I presume you are not Moslem. If your wife walks around with her head uncovered, she must be a brazen harlot, according to a Moslem cleric. Do you care? That is his view. It is the same here. Your religion is NOT connected to the State. It does not have a say in secular matters. It's that simple.
June 28, 2010 at 2:29 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
Chuck said... "ProConserv: If your wife walks around with her head uncovered, she must be a brazen harlot, according to a Moslem cleric. Do you care? That is his view." . . . . . . Chuck, you need to understand that only ProConserv himself is allowed to call her that. Often. He's the one carrying the Glock.
June 28, 2010 at 2:50 PM Report abuse
nobull said...
In Maine, a couple may walk into the town/city hall in the community of their residence, state their intentions to be life partners, sign the legal paperwork, and become "Registered Life Partners". Both heterosexual and homosexual couples may do this. National Organization for Marriage has every right to assemble and march here in Maine as a show of solidarity with those who support the current standard for marriage. I have no doubt that there will be many protesters who believe in same sex marriage to greet them. Fine, that is also THEIR right. Just remember to be courteous and respectful of one another.
June 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
nobull said... "In Maine, a couple may walk into the town/city hall in the community of their residence, state their intentions to be life partners, sign the legal paperwork, and become "Registered Life Partners". Both heterosexual and homosexual couples may do this." . . . . . . . . Same is true for auto registrations and dog licenses. Why would anyone feel differently about marriage licenses? Might it have something to do with your bibles having been written before France was the first to introduce a license plate, in 1893? Or, if your reluctance is not biblically based, are you afraid that the neighbors' cockapoo may turn your rottie?
June 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM Report abuse
Chuck said...
nobull: I agree. People of all views have the right to assemble and state their views. I draw the line on religious institutions financing NOM to force their views on the secular world. And, you are correct, people can register as "Life Partners." Put that down on the Federal IRS forms when you are filing jointly and see how well it works. Apply for Social Security benefits under "surviving spouse" and let me know the results. It is this simple: The term "marriage" is legal term. It also is used by churches to describe their matrimonial ceremony. From the legal standpoint, you have problems using two terms to define exactly the same thing, so just save everyone a load of hassle, grief, and expense, and call "Legal Life Partners" as "married" and be done with it. Then, we can move on to something important like improving education, arts, and sciences, so we won't be the dumbest nation on the planet. We already have a headstart down that path.
June 28, 2010 at 3:30 PM Report abuse
Chuck said...
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D: Well, you have to look at the concept of a State. Yes, a marriage license is just that, no more than a dog license or an auto registration. It is a matter of establishing a record of an event or situation for posterity. A marriage license, in the eyes of the law and as has been validated in many courts, is just a contract. If you want the emotional, romantic stuff, go to a church. That's what they are for. But, a marriage license is there to establish a binding contract between two parties, defining the legal rights and responsibilities expected of both parties. That is it in a nutshell, cold and hard. A divorce is the disolution of this contract. If you want more than that, talk to your clergyman. Again, do not mix religious views with secular state views. The two are separate as I mentioned in my JP marriage statement earlier.
June 28, 2010 at 3:39 PM Report abuse
nobull said...
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D, if I HAD a Rottie, which I don't, it would be spayed or neutered. Still, if it was able to reproduce, I'd do my best to keep it from foolin' around with the neighbors cockapoo on general principle's. Good Lord, can you imagine a Cockarottiepoo? That would surely be a gross compilation of canine genes.
June 28, 2010 at 4:21 PM Report abuse
hillbilly said...
If they believe marriage is such a good thing, why do they want to deny it to so many people?
June 28, 2010 at 4:43 PM Report abuse
MikeNYC said...
NOM is just another hate group like the Klan, Westboro Baptist Church or any other terrorist organization. People who support it are not one bit different the people who brought down the World Trade Center in NYC. The people of Maine need to be aware of this disreputable group and send them packing.
June 28, 2010 at 4:44 PM Report abuse
MikeNYC said...
NOM is just another hate group like the Klan, Westboro Baptist Church or any other terrorist organization. People who support it are not one bit different the people who brought down the World Trade Center in NYC. The people of Maine need to be aware of this disreputable group and send them packing.
June 28, 2010 at 4:44 PM Report abuse
Greg said...
Wow Dave, does your ignorance require a license?
June 28, 2010 at 4:49 PM Report abuse
hillbilly said...
If they believe marriage is such a good thing, why do they want to deny it to so many people?
June 28, 2010 at 4:56 PM Report abuse
DaveD said...
mikenyc - why don't you stop by and send me packing ...
June 28, 2010 at 6:55 PM Report abuse
DaveD said...
we won - you homosexuals lost. get over it...go cry to obama to save your cause or the supreme court if they'll listen
June 28, 2010 at 6:57 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
DaveD said... "why don't you stop by and send me packing ..." _____________________ What a sweet invitation. If Mike can't make it, do you mind if I drop by with some friends? I'll bring the chips and dip. The boys will bring the lubricant.
June 28, 2010 at 7:14 PM Report abuse
charlescat said...
VHJ Your invitation to DaveD is a great suggestion. However, don't bring the lube. I think he likes it "straight". Anyone, like DaveD and Procon, has secrets theu don't want to divulge.
June 28, 2010 at 7:30 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
charlescat said... "Anyone, like DaveD and Procon, has secrets theu don't want to divulge" __________________________________________________________________________________________________ You think ProctoSerf stands firmly behind him?
June 28, 2010 at 8:28 PM Report abuse
DaveD said...
i can just imagine these gays collecting names and forming a commission to hunt down and execute those who oppose them. similar to what the Nazi's did in places like Poland and Lithuania. only this time they round up Catholics and Mormons and any business owner that funded the opposition.
June 28, 2010 at 11:27 PM Report abuse
DaveD said...
chuck - thank God for HIV
June 28, 2010 at 11:32 PM Report abuse
VHJ1Q29uc2Vydg%3D%3D said...
DaveD said... "thank God for HIV" ______________________________________________________________________________________ He says, "You are welcome" and adds that he has other goodies for you that you will enjoy even more. Heard of Ebola? He will send it to you in your monkey meat. Bon appetit.
June 28, 2010 at 11:42 PM Report abuse
HesterPrynne said...
Based on the Supreme Court decision yesterday about the Christian Legal Society, NOM can pack it up and crawl back into the cave from which it sprang. The court said being gay is an immutable characteristic and as such the consititute a distinct class. That is the SUPREME court of the United States. Say being gay is an immutable characteristic. Wonder how they will rule when the marriage equality case gets to them???
June 29, 2010 at 10:26 PM Report abuse